Gilles de Rais the killer.
The first child-snatching attributed to Gilles de Rais occurred, historians believe, sometime in 1432, when Gilles de Sille, a cousin of de Rais, reportedly abducted a young apprentice whom de Sille wanted to carry a message to the castle at Machecoul. The anonymous 12-year-old boy, apprenticed to Guillaume Hilairet, a furrier, was the son of Jean Jeudon. When the boy disappeared and Hilairet sought out the nobleman de Sille, he was told the boy had been kidnapped by thieves in the village of Tiffauges. In Gilles’ trial, the events were testified to by Hillairet and his wife, Jean Jeudon and his wife, and five others from Machecoul. There is no evidence linking Gilles de Rais to this kidnapping, but he was charged with the boy’s death.
In Jean Benedetti’s biography of Gilles de Rais, he explains what happened to the children - both boys and girls:
The child was pampered and dressed in better clothes than it had ever known. The evening began with a large meal and heavy drinking, particularly hippocras, which acted as a stimulant. The child was taken to an upper room to which only Gilles (de Rais) and his immediate circle were admitted. The child would then be confronted with the true nature of its situation. The shock thus produced on the child was an initial source of pleasure for Gilles.
An accomplice in many of the crimes, Etienne Corrillaut, known as Poitou, testified that de Rais then raped the child as it was hung from a hook by the neck. Before the victim died, Gilles took the child down, comforted it, repeated the rape and either killed the child himself or had it slain.
Poitou testified that the child victims were murdered “sometimes by decapitating them, sometimes by cutting their throats, sometimes by dismembering them, sometimes by breaking their necks with a stick, and that there was a weapon specifically for their execution, known as a braquemard.”
Gilles de Rais rarely left a child alive for more than one evening’s pleasure, Poitou claimed. Many times they were dealt mortal wounds before de Rais sodomized them. He would then take his pleasure as the child died. Occasionally, he would perform a sex act with a dead child.
In his own confession, Gilles testified that “when the children were dead he kissed them and those who had the most handsome limbs and heads he held up to admire them, and had their bodies cruelly cut open and took delight at the sight of their inner organs; and very often when the children were dying he sat on their stomachs and took pleasure in seeing them die and laughed…”
Bodies were cremated in the chamber of horrors. The fires burned slowly over time so as to minimize the smell, testified Henriet Griart, another co-conspirator. Poitou also claimed the ashes were then dumped in the cesspool or moat.
What do you think abbout this???
The "Godspeed One The Devis Thunder" is abbout this person...=\
In Jean Benedetti’s biography of Gilles de Rais, he explains what happened to the children - both boys and girls:
The child was pampered and dressed in better clothes than it had ever known. The evening began with a large meal and heavy drinking, particularly hippocras, which acted as a stimulant. The child was taken to an upper room to which only Gilles (de Rais) and his immediate circle were admitted. The child would then be confronted with the true nature of its situation. The shock thus produced on the child was an initial source of pleasure for Gilles.
An accomplice in many of the crimes, Etienne Corrillaut, known as Poitou, testified that de Rais then raped the child as it was hung from a hook by the neck. Before the victim died, Gilles took the child down, comforted it, repeated the rape and either killed the child himself or had it slain.
Poitou testified that the child victims were murdered “sometimes by decapitating them, sometimes by cutting their throats, sometimes by dismembering them, sometimes by breaking their necks with a stick, and that there was a weapon specifically for their execution, known as a braquemard.”
Gilles de Rais rarely left a child alive for more than one evening’s pleasure, Poitou claimed. Many times they were dealt mortal wounds before de Rais sodomized them. He would then take his pleasure as the child died. Occasionally, he would perform a sex act with a dead child.
In his own confession, Gilles testified that “when the children were dead he kissed them and those who had the most handsome limbs and heads he held up to admire them, and had their bodies cruelly cut open and took delight at the sight of their inner organs; and very often when the children were dying he sat on their stomachs and took pleasure in seeing them die and laughed…”
Bodies were cremated in the chamber of horrors. The fires burned slowly over time so as to minimize the smell, testified Henriet Griart, another co-conspirator. Poitou also claimed the ashes were then dumped in the cesspool or moat.
What do you think abbout this???
The "Godspeed One The Devis Thunder" is abbout this person...=\
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Permalink Reply by XxXFilth_AddictXxX on -
He was a smart man. Not for what he did to the children, but how he snatched so many over years and not to be caught. Though now a days we be smarter to figure things out like that. But still, as cruel as he was he deserved a better way to R.I.P
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Permalink Reply by Sean's Inferno on -
I don't know ... when you're in supreme power, or extremely wealthy, you can get away with a lot.
XxXFilth_AddictXxX said:He was a smart man. Not for what he did to the children, but how he snatched so many over years and not to be caught. Though now a days we be smarter to figure things out like that. But still, as cruel as he was he deserved a better way to R.I.P
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Permalink Reply by Matz on -
i agree with XxXFilth_AddictXxX ,he still deserved a better way to R.I.P.
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Permalink Reply by Sardonicus on -
"Kein Licht zu weiß,
Keine Hölle zu heiß,
Das ist der Preis!"
It's from Oomph!'s "Dein Weg" ("Your Way"): "No light too white, no hell too hot, that is the price!"
All I can say.
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Permalink Reply by Phalanx Titan on -
“sometimes by decapitating them, sometimes by cutting their throats, sometimes by dismembering them, sometimes by breaking their necks with a stick, and that there was a weapon specifically for their execution, known as a braquemard.”
Sounds like this quotation may have been Dani's inspiration for the opening monologue in "Midnight Shadows...". Thought it sounded familiar.
Interesting stuff...
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Permalink Reply by The Devil's Pride on -
Well, First of all no one knows whether gilles was falsely accused or if what he did was real...Cradle of filth however, wrote the album as if it were, but dani claimed that he isn't implying that gilles did actually do these crime's, Because there is alot of controversy on that subject. Dani also stated that he did not write the album to make gilles look cool but because of the story behind it all...how the slaying of joan of arc caused him to lose faith and turn to alchemy and to the dark side basically. I don't know which video it was where he say's all this..But I do remember him saying all that.
If this was real...gilles' de rais was one sick fuck and deserved to die a thousand death's....but he was a coward and got his way in the end anyway.
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Permalink Reply by Nadir Tiffauges on -
listening to the music is way easier than reading these words...
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Permalink Reply by DARK DREAMER on -
I don't understand the comments by those that thought he deserved a better way to die....?
He was hanged..........many people were back then....
What would you have done to him?
Personally, I think Joan died a far worse death!
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Permalink Reply by Sean's Inferno on
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People say it could be a conspiracy in order to get his land, but as Dani pointed out, they wouldn't have been able to get ownership of his lands anyway.
The Devil's Pride said:Well, First of all no one knows whether gilles was falsely accused or if what he did was real...Cradle of filth however, wrote the album as if it were, but dani claimed that he isn't implying that gilles did actually do these crime's, Because there is alot of controversy on that subject. Dani also stated that he did not write the album to make gilles look cool but because of the story behind it all...how the slaying of joan of arc caused him to lose faith and turn to alchemy and to the dark side basically. I don't know which video it was where he say's all this..But I do remember him saying all that.
If this was real...gilles' de rais was one sick fuck and deserved to die a thousand death's....but he was a coward and got his way in the end anyway.
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Permalink Reply by The Devil's Pride on
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Sodomize him with a knife until he bleeds to death!....wait... he'd probably like that.
DARK DREAMER said:I don't understand the comments by those that thought he deserved a better way to die....?
He was hanged..........many people were back then.... What would you have done to him? Personally, I think Joan died a far worse death!
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Permalink Reply by Sean's Inferno on
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You big feminist, you =P
DARK DREAMER said:I don't understand the comments by those that thought he deserved a better way to die....?
He was hanged..........many people were back then....
What would you have done to him?
Personally, I think Joan died a far worse death!
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Permalink Reply by The Devil's Pride on
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Yeah that too... But I wasn't there...nor do I know that much information about this who subject so I won't make any accusations either.
Sean's Inferno said:People say it could be a conspiracy in order to get his land, but as Dani pointed out, they wouldn't have been able to get ownership of his lands anyway.
The Devil's Pride said:Well, First of all no one knows whether gilles was falsely accused or if what he did was real...Cradle of filth however, wrote the album as if it were, but dani claimed that he isn't implying that gilles did actually do these crime's, Because there is alot of controversy on that subject. Dani also stated that he did not write the album to make gilles look cool but because of the story behind it all...how the slaying of joan of arc caused him to lose faith and turn to alchemy and to the dark side basically. I don't know which video it was where he say's all this..But I do remember him saying all that.
If this was real...gilles' de rais was one sick fuck and deserved to die a thousand death's....but he was a coward and got his way in the end anyway.
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